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So I watched the 10 for the chairman where Roberts said they were aiming to push the minimum viable product and then build from there or some such.
My question is, what is your minimum viable? What do you hope to see in the game before it goes gold?
For me, it would be Hopefully all my ships =) and then each of the possible roles. Shipping, Combat, Exploration, and Mining all viable as the only role you are wanting to play. Enough content for each so that you don't feel that you have to touch the others. Some of the major bugs fixed. Though, I expect bugs in all games. Played too many MMO's on release to think otherwise. And finally for me? A NPC slider or greater punishment to griefers. Seen too much grief already in just the 2.4alpha. Oh, and the ability to lock my ship! =P
Other then that I like the way its headed. Speed bumps and all.
Apologies if someone has already posted something like this. Been gone awhile and did not see anything like this on the forums.
My question is, what is your minimum viable? What do you hope to see in the game before it goes gold?
For me, it would be Hopefully all my ships =) and then each of the possible roles. Shipping, Combat, Exploration, and Mining all viable as the only role you are wanting to play. Enough content for each so that you don't feel that you have to touch the others. Some of the major bugs fixed. Though, I expect bugs in all games. Played too many MMO's on release to think otherwise. And finally for me? A NPC slider or greater punishment to griefers. Seen too much grief already in just the 2.4alpha. Oh, and the ability to lock my ship! =P
Other then that I like the way its headed. Speed bumps and all.
Apologies if someone has already posted something like this. Been gone awhile and did not see anything like this on the forums.
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There are still some die hard E:D fan boys, but their support is wavering just as rapidly as SC's when it comes to impatient consumers who don't understand how game development works. But the mistake E:D made was admission that "its good enough to sell".... but there is a HUGE difference between Early access buyers and Release buyers in how you can handle them.
Basically one of the biggest jokes in the industry is how AAA Publishers chop up finished games to sell as DLC over the course of 6 months. It takes Frontier 2-3 months to develop a given feature for their expansions... and so far, they barely add anything to the game.
This is why I support the idea of front loading the feature development, because it has a better chance of surviving the 3 month burn out of MMOs if it has as many activities as possible during its public release. A long development cycle will be bitched about regardless.... but you can't undo a f***ed up launch.
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I am hoping for a PU release late 2018 but it seems like it might take till 2020 to reach my expectations above, this is just speculation ofc. 2016 seemed like the year they were going to "ramp up" production but I am just not seeing it.
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At two million players that makes the population 20K per system with half the systems populated.
I think the Star Citizen chart would double the numbers of the WOW chart if it has only the same success level, because of the growth in gaming since the release of WOW.
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Fingers crossed!
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Bounty Hunting, for example, might still be very much on the table as a player profession. But it might not necessarily make the cut for launch. The most "fringe" systems meant for eventual player discovery might not even be in the final game files at launch. A few ships might be left behind... with the understanding that they're still in the pipeline.
Development doesn't just stop when CIG decides it meets some minimum threshold for release. That was never part of the plan.
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And honestly I think the number of ships that are in the game now are fine to start with, they just need to get the herald, mining ship and at least 1 capital ship to give really hardcore players something to aim for. After that I wouldn't mind if all the remaining ships came in patches.
I feel like they are focusing too much on ship quantity just to get more ship sales when they should try to bring more gameplay like mining and cargo out faster. This is looking like a 2020+ game if all there ganna do is make ships before launch.
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Though I do believe I reiterated a main point that Chris had. ;)
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Long live the vision!
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-Enough systems and parts for viable gameplay for each type of profession (pirate, hauler, hunter, merc, info, food, etc. + whatever else)
-Solid amount of reusable missions with the dynamic mission generator to maintain at least the semblance of a working 'verse
To me that is the game (PU at least) and is what I would determine to be minimally viable as the game as has been presented thus far.
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It's meant to cover them legally, no more no less.
I'm not really sure what I personally view as a minimum viable given that I'd be 'happy' with all mechanics implemented with just a handful of systems. But I suspect they'll do more than that because they technically promised 100 systems on launch and many other things on launch. So who knows. Given that they'll be working on this game long into the future either way I'm not sure it matters that much.
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But that only works, if CIG has the time it takes to develop a solid base and many mechanics which can be used by the players.
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And while things might be standard in your world, that doesn't make them right in others, plus, at least I didn't come here for a standard product ;)
And neither for a TOS Derek Smart Discussion.
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So yeah, I don't really care about when they reach maturity in terms of content but I do care a great deal about when they start to approach maturity in terms of stability. This was always going to be about a huge amount of content built on an ambitious but elegant platform. The only way to go about it is to stabilize with a limited but as representative as possible sample of content and then add more. If it gets too big before it reaches maturity in terms of stability, it will very likely stay broken.
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Right now I'm not sure if we're thinking the same thought.....
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